[1/21/16, 8:19:17 AM] P9: So, I am bascially waiting ^^
[1/21/16, 8:20:49 AM] Yu Wu: hello
[1/21/16, 8:20:56 AM] P9: Hi
[1/21/16, 8:21:15 AM] Yu Wu: Sorry a little disorganized… Just wake up
[1/21/16, 8:21:37 AM] Yu Wu: Should we start?
[1/21/16, 8:21:39 AM] P9: Ahh I understand those things, no worries
[1/21/16, 8:21:40 AM] P9: sure
[1/21/16, 8:21:57 AM] Yu Wu: I’m wondering how long have you been as a software engineer?
[1/21/16, 8:23:22 AM] P9: Tricky question. I only finished any sort of education in Okt. 2014. I have been working as a developer for websites since mid 2013 so i would say for about two and a half years. Before that I would consider it hobby and playing around
[1/21/16, 8:24:02 AM] Yu Wu: Awesome! Why do you start the * project in the first place?
[1/21/16, 8:26:45 AM] P9: As I continued to build different website I was constantly on the look for good resources. Because sometimes you can build the most awesome app out there but a guy with a better better picture just beats you. Someday I stumbled upon unsplash which is a site that publishes CC0 images. After that I looked for more similar sites and found a few lists containing sites like that. Though I found that all lists contained good as well as bad sites so I simply created my own list of the sites I found to be good. The idea really was to get out there scout for sites once and then be able to come back to a list without worrying about it having sites I found "bad"
[1/21/16, 8:28:19 AM] Yu Wu: So is it right that the list starts out for your own reference purpose and support your work?
[1/21/16, 8:28:41 AM] P9: yeah you could say that.
[1/21/16, 8:29:19 AM] Yu Wu: Could you explain in a little detail how did you find the resources included in your list and how did you filter them?
[1/21/16, 8:29:31 AM] P9: okay
[1/21/16, 8:31:14 AM] P9: I started out doing a simple google search and also searching through a few forum and reddit. From that I got lists of sites that provided images. I then looked at each site and had a few criteria:
- site design, Usability
- sites should have a search function
- only CC0 images
Going with those criteria I kicked out sites that didn't match and kept the rest.
[1/21/16, 8:33:43 AM] Yu Wu: Awesome! I’m also wondering do you have a rough ratio of (number of resources included)/(number of all resources you evaluated)?
[1/21/16, 8:34:20 AM] P9: I would guess 1/5 but it has been some time since I did the list
[1/21/16, 8:34:35 AM] Yu Wu: No problem!
[1/21/16, 8:34:49 AM] Yu Wu: Why did you decide to host the list on GitHub instead of other places?
[1/21/16, 8:36:04 AM] P9: It felt like the right place to put it. It's a place where other developers might stumble upon it. Alternatives would have been only on my computer or on a blog. but I felt that on GitHub there was more of a possibility of maybe others joining in to expand the list.
[1/21/16, 8:36:56 AM] Yu Wu: Got it. But do you think git as a tool might be somewhat overkill for such purpose?
[1/21/16, 8:37:17 AM] Yu Wu: I mean there’s a lot of overhead to start, maintain, and collaborate using git
[1/21/16, 8:38:07 AM] P9: Sure, I can see it being overhead for the usecase of keeping a list. I am simply familiar with it and for starters I was able to simply use the online editor on gitHub to create the readme.
[1/21/16, 8:38:48 AM] Yu Wu: Have you ever communicate with others about the resources included in your list?
[1/21/16, 8:39:00 AM] Yu Wu: Or received feedback from others?
[1/21/16, 8:40:23 AM] P9: A few poeple starred the repo which i see as positiv feedback. I had two or three mails suggesting links to include. Apart from that I also talked about it with some friends who are also working on websites
[1/21/16, 8:41:10 AM] Yu Wu: Hmm interesting… why do you think they send you email for suggesting links instead of doing a pull request?
[1/21/16, 8:42:06 AM] P9: not sure. Maybe it seemed easier to them, maybe they weren't used to git as a tool
[1/21/16, 8:42:47 AM] Yu Wu: Got it :). Are you aware of other curated lists (awesome-* lists)? Do you use them?
[1/21/16, 8:43:22 AM] P9: For images or in general?
[1/21/16, 8:43:28 AM] Yu Wu: in general
[1/21/16, 8:44:52 AM] P9: Yeah I keep a few links saved at different places. Few threads on reddit and just link collections. Most of those probably are one-time-posts that don't get updated. I usually only fall back on those when I need something. So when I need X I will have a quick spin around before doing a google search
[1/21/16, 8:46:30 AM] Yu Wu: Interesting! From what aspects have those lists been helpful to you?
[1/21/16, 8:46:38 AM] Yu Wu: Help you to understand what to searfch?
[1/21/16, 8:47:55 AM] P9: mainly to find good new sites. Usually I tend to look for something specific for a project like a picture of X or a good movie to watch with that goal I go through a list and really just pic the first thing that seems fitting.
[1/21/16, 8:48:31 AM] Yu Wu: Got it!
[1/21/16, 8:49:08 AM] Yu Wu: Do you usually go to those lists or just occasionally?
[1/21/16, 8:49:54 AM] P9: Occasionally a lot of the are the "save and forget" type.
[1/21/16, 8:50:02 AM] Yu Wu: I mean is checking the list part of your workflow or just something I will do it if it comes up to my mind
[1/21/16, 8:50:07 AM] Yu Wu: so definitely latter :)
[1/21/16, 8:50:35 AM] Yu Wu: Have you every market your list to potential collaborators or users?
[1/21/16, 8:51:32 AM] Yu Wu: Or do you have the needs to market your list?
[1/21/16, 8:52:35 AM] P9: For some classes this semester I send it to members of my group as we needed images. Apart from that I never marketed it out in the open.
I don't really see a need for that. It would bee cool to have many contributors as people will probably know sites I don't on the other hand I want this to be a list of sites I find good which will be out of place when working on it with a larger team.
[1/21/16, 8:53:31 AM] Yu Wu: Got it! What do you think are the advantages/disadvantages of the format of curated lists, i.e. table of contents + list (name + description), from a user’s perspective?
[1/21/16, 8:56:20 AM] P9: Advantages:
Once you find a person whos taste I wanna say fits your own you have way less work as you can just build upon the work done by the person curating the list.
Having a description to list itmes also saves you from visiting a lot of them.
Disadventages:
You see a narrow portion of all possible sites out there and the list might not reflect the sites best for your style of working
[1/21/16, 8:57:08 AM] Yu Wu: Awesome! Thanks a lot, P9! That’s all I have :)
[1/21/16, 8:57:13 AM] Yu Wu: So sorry about being late
[1/21/16, 8:57:22 AM] Yu Wu: Do you have any questions or comments for me?
[1/21/16, 8:57:31 AM] P9: Not a problem glad I could help :)
[1/21/16, 8:57:49 AM] Yu Wu: If something come up in the future, can I follow up with you?
[1/21/16, 8:57:59 AM] P9: Can you provide me with whatever it is you make out of this?
[1/21/16, 8:58:03 AM] P9: sure feel free
[1/21/16, 8:58:11 AM] Yu Wu: No problem
[1/21/16, 8:58:49 AM] Yu Wu: I have a poster/Doctor’s Consortium just published 11/2015
[1/21/16, 8:58:50 AM] Yu Wu: https://scholar.google.com/citations?view_op=view_citation&hl=en&user=1TNPqLMAAAAJ&citation_for_view=1TNPqLMAAAAJ:roLk4NBRz8UC
[1/21/16, 8:59:07 AM] Yu Wu: But that’s too brief, I will let you know when I finished this piece.
[1/21/16, 8:59:24 AM] P9: That would be great, looking forward to that and good luck with yourw ork.
[1/21/16, 8:59:35 AM] Yu Wu: Thank :) I’ll see you later
[1/21/16, 8:59:42 AM] Yu Wu: Goodbye!