[12/18/15, 7:31:37 AM] Yu Wu: Hello *, this is Yu Wu
[12/18/15, 7:31:51 AM] Yu Wu: Thanks a lot for chatting with me!
[12/18/15, 7:31:52 AM] *: Excellent, Hi Yu!
[12/18/15, 7:32:20 AM] Yu Wu: I would like to know your experiences with * project
[12/18/15, 7:32:41 AM] Yu Wu: because it is not a software project hosted on GitHub, which I found very interesting :")
[12/18/15, 7:32:47 AM] Yu Wu: So shall we start?
[12/18/15, 7:33:08 AM] *: Sure
[12/18/15, 7:33:17 AM] *: No problem, would you prefer to do a call or is text fine ?
[12/18/15, 7:33:53 AM] Yu Wu: text is fine. Actually if I do phone call I need further approvement from my university…
[12/18/15, 7:34:13 AM] *: ok no problem :)
[12/18/15, 7:34:20 AM] Yu Wu: So, how many years have you been as a professional software engineer?
[12/18/15, 7:34:46 AM] *: I've been working for 4 1/2 years now
[12/18/15, 7:34:59 AM] Yu Wu: Why did you start the *’ project? What inspired you to start the project?
[12/18/15, 7:36:13 AM] *: I feel that most of the web services we use today track too much of our data in order to serve us focused advertisements. I think affects our privacy as we don't really know what they are doing with that data
[12/18/15, 7:36:25 AM] *: or what will be done with it down the line
[12/18/15, 7:37:17 AM] Yu Wu: Interesting, so do you think people do not have enough awareness of privacy alternatives included in your list?
[12/18/15, 7:38:22 AM] Yu Wu: What problems does the project intend to solve?
[12/18/15, 7:38:57 AM] *: For example, couples share intimate conversations, over Facebook chat, Facebook could in turn do anything with that information.

Yes I for one don't think there is enough privacy focused alternatives, so creating a public list would both highlight where privacy focused needs to be built, and highlight aware of the tools that already exist
[12/18/15, 7:39:39 AM] *: so problems to solve, identify where we are missing privacy focused technologies, show alternatives to tools we use today that don't consider user privacy
[12/18/15, 7:39:56 AM] Yu Wu: Got it. How did you get started with the project? Did you learn from other similar projects?
[12/18/15, 7:40:43 AM] Yu Wu: Such as what should be included, format, etc.
[12/18/15, 7:41:45 AM] *: With that project there wasn't much background work needed, it was just as simple as creating a list and posting it in a public place like Github :) I think I got the idea of compiling a list from some of the other list based projects like the following: https://github.com/sorrycc/awesome-javascript
[12/18/15, 7:41:57 AM] *: And then the advantage of using Github is other people can contribute easily
[12/18/15, 7:42:27 AM] Yu Wu: I was just about to ask you that!
[12/18/15, 7:42:44 AM] *: :)
[12/18/15, 7:42:46 AM] Yu Wu: Wondering why prefer GitHub rather than places like Wikipedia?
[12/18/15, 7:43:14 AM] *: That's a good question actually, I had never considered wikipedia for this project.
[12/18/15, 7:43:15 AM] Yu Wu: Does GitHub provide a better collaborating interface or there are some other reasons as well?
[12/18/15, 7:43:35 AM] Yu Wu: Maybe for software engineer GitHub is just more natural to use :)
[12/18/15, 7:44:18 AM] *: I'm not familiar with contributing to wikipedia to be honest. So  yes github would be a more natural tool to use. I also feel github encourages collaboration more than wikipedia which is more reader focused.
[12/18/15, 7:44:50 AM] Yu Wu: I’m wondering what criteria you used to select/filter the resourced included in your project?
[12/18/15, 7:46:54 AM] *: I am also the 'owner' of the information or project on Github, it's just hosted there, while on wikipedia I believe wikipedia would be the 'owner'
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3:45 pm
I looked at the different software based tools I use today than I was unhappy with using as a result of privacy issues, then searched for privacy focused alternatives
[12/18/15, 7:47:03 AM] *: sorry had some internet problems there, sorted now :)
[12/18/15, 7:47:23 AM] Yu Wu: No worries at all!
[12/18/15, 7:47:48 AM] Yu Wu: So hosting GitHub as the benefit of the ownership, right?
[12/18/15, 7:48:34 AM] Yu Wu: Are you familiar with all the resources included in your project?
[12/18/15, 7:48:38 AM] *: ownership and control, and also everything is versioned. I could easily take it off Github host it somewhere else for example
[12/18/15, 7:49:00 AM] *: yes all except heartbeat, I have yet to use that
[12/18/15, 7:49:31 AM] Yu Wu: Do you maintain the project just for yourself or for others as well?
[12/18/15, 7:50:19 AM] *: for myself and for others to see that there are good alternatives out there. I haven't updated it recently though, so thanks for the reminder to do so :)
[12/18/15, 7:50:34 AM] Yu Wu: hah, glad that I can help as well!
[12/18/15, 7:51:10 AM] Yu Wu: Also, I’m wondering given there are already many such type of projects (awesome-*), do you go to these types of projects to find resources as well?
[12/18/15, 7:51:21 AM] Yu Wu: like awesome-javascript
[12/18/15, 7:52:23 AM] *: yes I find them quite useful, and quite like that format, as I can easily contribute new sources if I see something not listed, and know that others can do so they are usually kept up to date
[12/18/15, 7:52:47 AM] Yu Wu: You contribute to such kind of projects as well?
[12/18/15, 7:53:49 AM] *: I haven't contributed to any of the list projects that I can remember, but I do contribute a lot to different open source projects
[12/18/15, 7:54:16 AM] Yu Wu: Oh, so you meant these kind of lists can help you find interesting open source projects to contribute to?
[12/18/15, 7:55:45 AM] *: no sorry. those awesome-* list are great for the particular resources, like Javascript in the one above. I haven't contributed directly to those list projects that I can remember by adding a link etc.
[12/18/15, 7:56:11 AM] Yu Wu: Got it. Thanks for a lot for clarify :)
[12/18/15, 7:56:19 AM] *: :)
[12/18/15, 7:56:33 AM] Yu Wu: Do you plan to support/maintain * for a long time?
[12/18/15, 7:56:53 AM] Yu Wu: because new resources come up everyday and old resources become outdated
[12/18/15, 7:58:20 AM] *: I'll try to. I think privacy is going to keep becoming more and more of an issue with things like tech wearables and "internet of things" products like the Nest thermostat, so it's good to have a list to be able to point people towards
[12/18/15, 7:58:34 AM] Yu Wu: Definitely so!
[12/18/15, 7:58:55 AM] Yu Wu: What about other topics? Do you wish to start other similar projects on GitHub in the future as well?
[12/18/15, 7:59:53 AM] *: I have no plans to at the moment, but if something else popped up I was passionate about I would. It's very simple and free to create a project so why not :)
[12/18/15, 8:01:02 AM] Yu Wu: What about drawbacks, difficulties, unsatisfactory parts? Anything you wish you can improve for your projects or other similar projects?
[12/18/15, 8:02:48 AM] *: Drawbacks are mainly around discovery. While it's easy to host a project on github, you still need to put effort into marketing it, so you get other people contributing or finding it
[12/18/15, 8:02:57 AM] *: how did you find the project actually? :)
[12/18/15, 8:03:07 AM] Yu Wu: I searched on GitHub
[12/18/15, 8:03:14 AM] Yu Wu: with “curated list” as key words
[12/18/15, 8:03:42 AM] Yu Wu: become these are the projects I’m interested in :)
[12/18/15, 8:03:59 AM] Yu Wu: Sorry we went a little over time, *
[12/18/15, 8:04:07 AM] Yu Wu: Do you have any other comments or suggestions?
[12/18/15, 8:04:13 AM] *: I see, and sure enough those words are used in the readme
[12/18/15, 8:04:45 AM] *: no problem on time, no other comments really! If you have any other questions feel free to drop me an email :)
[12/18/15, 8:05:06 AM] *: best of look with the project, I'd like to read the final paper if it's published publicly!
[12/18/15, 8:05:10 AM] Yu Wu: Great! Thank you so much, *! I really appreciate your help!
[12/18/15, 8:05:19 AM] Yu Wu: I will definitely keep you posted :)
[12/18/15, 8:05:44 AM] Yu Wu: Have a great Christmas and New Year!