2015-12-26 08:03:26 <P12> * wants to chat on Hangouts!
2015-12-26 08:08:34 <Yu Wu> Hello *
2015-12-26 08:08:48 <Yu Wu> Am I sent request to the wrong email ...
2015-12-26 08:09:08 <P12> *@* is an alias
2015-12-26 08:09:16 <Yu Wu> Oh
2015-12-26 08:09:19 <P12> Hangouts only allows invites sent to gmail address
2015-12-26 08:09:25 <Yu Wu> Sorry about that :).
2015-12-26 08:09:30 <Yu Wu> Thanks for connecting
2015-12-26 08:09:38 <Yu Wu> Shall we start?
2015-12-26 08:09:41 <P12> sure
2015-12-26 08:10:10 *** P12 started a video chat
2015-12-26 08:10:46 *** Yu Wu ended a video chat
2015-12-26 08:10:52 <Yu Wu> Hey sorry about that
2015-12-26 08:11:08 <Yu Wu> If I want to do audio/video chat, I need further approval from my university
2015-12-26 08:11:28 <P12> text is fine
2015-12-26 08:11:54 <Yu Wu> text chat here sounds good to you?
2015-12-26 08:12:19 <P12> yup
2015-12-26 08:12:25 <Yu Wu> Thanks!
2015-12-26 08:12:43 <Yu Wu> I'm wondering how many years have you been as a professional software engineer?
2015-12-26 08:13:01 <P12> I wouldn't consider myself a professional
2015-12-26 08:13:45 <P12> the professional experience I got was when I interned at * at 15
2015-12-26 08:13:52 <Yu Wu> This year?
2015-12-26 08:13:53 <P12> started programming in 8th grade
2015-12-26 08:13:58 <P12> no I'm 17 now
2015-12-26 08:14:08 <P12> dropped out of school last year
2015-12-26 08:14:23 <Yu Wu> Are you going to work in software industry?
2015-12-26 08:14:28 <P12> yup
2015-12-26 08:14:33 <Yu Wu> Ok great  ☺
2015-12-26 08:14:45 <Yu Wu> I'm wondering that motivated you to create the awesome-* project?
2015-12-26 08:14:51 <Yu Wu> What problems it intends to solve?
2015-12-26 08:15:43 <P12> created the project to aggregate creative resources for prototyping apps/ websites with
2015-12-26 08:15:57 <P12> there's a project called "Awesome" on Github
2015-12-26 08:16:01 <P12> one of the most popular repos
2015-12-26 08:16:05 <P12> and it's just a collection of lists
2015-12-26 08:16:12 <P12> so seeing as there's demand for it
2015-12-26 08:16:17 <Yu Wu> Yes  ☺ that's why I'm doing this research
2015-12-26 08:16:17 <P12> and I know some good resources
2015-12-26 08:16:22 <P12> I decided to create the repo
2015-12-26 08:16:26 <P12> to rake in the karma
2015-12-26 08:17:16 <Yu Wu> Did you mean you see other people are doing this, and you find out there's something others haven't done yet, which is collecting resources for prototyping apps, so you decide to do it yourself?
2015-12-26 08:17:35 <P12> the other ones are mostly programming resources
2015-12-26 08:17:52 <P12> this one is for quality, copyright-free creatives
2015-12-26 08:18:01 <P12> like icons, patterns, photos, etc
2015-12-26 08:18:39 <Yu Wu> Got it. Do you use all the resources included in your list in your own projects/apps?
2015-12-26 08:19:02 <P12> I recently started using them more often
2015-12-26 08:19:18 <P12> before making the repo I had to do research each time I needed a creative
2015-12-26 08:19:20 <P12> now that I have a list
2015-12-26 08:19:26 <P12> I just refer back to it when needed
2015-12-26 08:19:50 <P12> it serves as a good toolkit for future projects
2015-12-26 08:19:54 <Yu Wu> So it list solve the "repeated search" problem, right?
2015-12-26 08:19:57 <P12> yup
2015-12-26 08:20:25 <P12> with the Awesome endorsement I'm hoping it becomes a collection people trust
2015-12-26 08:20:52 <P12> not just another article that was rushed for karma
2015-12-26 08:21:03 <Yu Wu> Isn't it already Awesome endorsed?
2015-12-26 08:21:22 <P12> No there's a pull request for it
2015-12-26 08:21:32 <P12> I need to change the logo to a svg before he accepts it
2015-12-26 08:21:41 <P12> been busy so I haven't done it yet
2015-12-26 08:22:18 <Yu Wu> Do you know what is the process sindresorhus accept/endorse an awesome list?
2015-12-26 08:22:40 <P12> it's listed on the project's PR guidelines
2015-12-26 08:22:57 <Yu Wu> Ok great. That I haven't noticed before ...
2015-12-26 08:23:33 <Yu Wu> In addition to the Awesome endorsement, what do you think are the benefits/advantages to host your list on GitHub as comparing to, say Wikipedia, or your blog?
2015-12-26 08:24:17 <P12> Unless it's a repeat visitor
2015-12-26 08:24:39 <P12> blogs need to establish a level of credibility to be seen as a high quality resource
2015-12-26 08:25:21 <P12> most articles are low quality since they only do it for seo
2015-12-26 08:25:39 <P12> People make projects on Github because they're useful to themselves foremost
2015-12-26 08:25:53 <P12> but feel it'd also helpful to others
2015-12-26 08:26:10 <Yu Wu> Do you mean those "awesome-*" projects here?
2015-12-26 08:26:10 <P12> and there's no motive of creating spam repos for seo value
2015-12-26 08:26:18 <P12> yes
2015-12-26 08:26:43 <Yu Wu> spam repos on GitHub cannot be SEOed?
2015-12-26 08:27:04 <P12> People won't star a repo that's not valuable
2015-12-26 08:27:09 <Yu Wu> ok got it
2015-12-26 08:27:28 <Yu Wu> What about Wikipedia? Do you consider GitHub/Git is a better tool?
2015-12-26 08:27:46 <P12> Wikipedia's too generic
2015-12-26 08:28:13 <Yu Wu> So GitHub can target at the right audience?
2015-12-26 08:28:23 <P12> yes
2015-12-26 08:28:45 <P12> and contributing is encouraged more
2015-12-26 08:28:56 <P12> people can comment on PRs
2015-12-26 08:29:04 <P12> Wikipedia is different
2015-12-26 08:29:06 <Yu Wu> But do you think Git is more difficulty to novice users?
2015-12-26 08:29:07 <P12> not social
2015-12-26 08:29:23 <Yu Wu> Oh what do you mean by "not social"? very curious here
2015-12-26 08:29:38 <P12> When I submit a Github PR others can comment on it
2015-12-26 08:29:50 <P12> Wikipedia contributions are anonymous, hence no reputation on the line
2015-12-26 08:29:57 <P12> hence the low-quality
2015-12-26 08:30:15 <P12> and my contribution on Github is publicly visible on my profile
2015-12-26 08:30:52 <Yu Wu> Got it. What about the novice barrier I mentioned above?
2015-12-26 08:31:21 <P12> Git basics shouldn't take more than half an hour to learn
2015-12-26 08:32:20 <P12> once you've learned it the workflow is much easier than on Wikipedia
2015-12-26 08:32:20 <Yu Wu> I agree with you, but I'm a software engineer... People with less tech-background might find it hard
2015-12-26 08:32:28 <Yu Wu> Oh really?
2015-12-26 08:32:40 <Yu Wu> I haven't contributed to Wikipedia so I don't know much about it.
2015-12-26 08:32:53 <Yu Wu> If the flow complicated on Wikipedia?
2015-12-26 08:33:45 <P12> the interface on wikipedia is not social, you have a reviewer and the suggested edit but it doesn't feel like a collaborative effort
2015-12-26 08:34:04 <Yu Wu> people cannot comment?
2015-12-26 08:34:22 <P12> No, people can report it
2015-12-26 08:34:46 <P12> but it's not publicly visible since social is not Wikipedia's core functionality
2015-12-26 08:35:11 <Yu Wu> Got it. very interesting!
2015-12-26 08:35:27 <Yu Wu> I'm wondering do you use others' awesome-lists?
2015-12-26 08:35:36 <P12> nope
2015-12-26 08:35:54 <Yu Wu> just use resources from your own to create app, right?
2015-12-26 08:36:07 <P12> yes
2015-12-26 08:36:37 <Yu Wu> Did you capture any drawbacks, difficulties, and unsatisfactory part in creating/maintaining your awesome-* project?
2015-12-26 08:36:46 <Yu Wu> Something you think can be improved
2015-12-26 08:37:07 <P12> Just the PR guidelines
2015-12-26 08:37:22 <P12> some repos have an elitist standard
2015-12-26 08:37:36 <Yu Wu> What do you mean by "elitist standard"?
2015-12-26 08:37:53 <P12> strict standards on what makes an "awesome list"
2015-12-26 08:38:03 <P12> e.g. svg logo
2015-12-26 08:38:12 <P12> which I don't have time for
2015-12-26 08:38:24 <Yu Wu> Why do you think the PR guidelines need to be improved? Do you think that's too demanding?
2015-12-26 08:39:05 <P12> I'm okay with maintainers having standards
2015-12-26 08:39:35 <P12> but those standards should to be necessary
2015-12-26 08:39:53 <P12> because it detracts a lot of contributors from making a PR
2015-12-26 08:40:14 <Yu Wu> ok got it. Do you plan to maintain your awesome-* for a long time?
2015-12-26 08:41:02 <P12> When the time it saves surpasses the time to edit the README
2015-12-26 08:41:47 <Yu Wu> If you have similar ideas in the future of creating lists to index resources, are you gonna do the same thing?
2015-12-26 08:42:02 <Yu Wu> Creating list and trying to get endorsed by "Awesome"
2015-12-26 08:42:14 <P12> only if it's worth creating
2015-12-26 08:42:49 <Yu Wu> OK, great! I pretty much covered all I want to ask. Thanks a lot for your help, *! I really appreciate it.
2015-12-26 08:42:55 <Yu Wu> Do you have any comments or suggestions?
2015-12-26 08:43:06 <P12> how did you find me?
2015-12-26 08:43:18 <Yu Wu> I searched "curated list" on GitHub
2015-12-26 08:44:15 <P12> this seems like a very specific research
2015-12-26 08:44:20 <Yu Wu> Yes
2015-12-26 08:44:29 <P12> what's the purpose of it
2015-12-26 08:45:01 <Yu Wu> Understand this particular activity "curation" using GItHub
2015-12-26 08:45:13 <Yu Wu> GitHub itself is well researched by others
2015-12-26 08:45:37 <Yu Wu> But how it is appropriated might be of interests to the research community
2015-12-26 08:46:52 <Yu Wu> If something comes up in the future, can I followup with you?
2015-12-26 08:47:25 <P12> sure
2015-12-26 08:47:28 <P12> add my Facebook
2015-12-26 08:47:35 <P12> https://www.facebook.com/*
2015-12-26 08:48:30 <Yu Wu> There doesn't seem to be a "add friend" button on the page
2015-12-26 08:48:34 <Yu Wu> So I sent you a message
2015-12-26 08:48:52 <Yu Wu> Oh, cannot send message neither
2015-12-26 08:49:18 <Yu Wu> Maybe you don't accept friend request at this time in your preference?
2015-12-26 08:49:19 <P12> are you logged in?
2015-12-26 08:49:24 <Yu Wu> yes
2015-12-26 08:49:28 <Yu Wu> I can add others
2015-12-26 08:50:06 <P12> try again
2015-12-26 08:50:17 <Yu Wu> there it is
2015-12-26 08:50:17 <Yu Wu> sent
2015-12-26 08:50:38 <P12> cool just follow up on Facebook
2015-12-26 08:50:47 <Yu Wu> ok I will
2015-12-26 08:50:50 <Yu Wu> thanks again and have a nice weekend